First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17)

[Banzai]

We bring you the first photosof the latest Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 production test mule! It compares most closely to the FT-86 II Concept car rather than the recently revealed Scion FR-S.

What’s curious is that it wears 17″ Subaru/Enkei wheels.

In First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17) - Scion FR-S Forum | Toyota FT-S Forum | Subaru 216a Forum | ft86club

[glock]

Não parece mal, mas falam que é o Subaru.
As linhas parecem-me bem, mas aquele papel de chapa oculta muito.

[Banzai]

Não parece mal, mas falam que é o Subaru.
As linhas parecem-me bem, mas aquele papel de chapa oculta muito.

Dizem que as jantes são Subaru/Enkei.
Também gostei das linhas.

[wysiwygyaris]

Afinal de contas é o toybaru

[Martins_Viseu]

Tem duas bufas portanto deve andar pa caraças!

[Ginga]

O carro nunca foi outra coisa que não resultado conjunto da Toyota e Subaru.

Mas nao parece estar muito mau apesar de ainda estar 'tapado'! Só me cheira que o interior dos farolins é um bocado 'chinês'...

[tremoço]

O carro ainda nem saiu e já tem um clube loool Para ja nao faz muito o meu estilo de carro, é muito futurista... Mas já soube de fontes confiáveis que para o ano já começa a ser comercializado ;)

[martins]

Uma foto do interior,não se ve grande coisa mas pode-se ver que o banco esta numa posição bem baixa no carro o que so podera mostrar que estão a ir ao detalhe no que toca ao centro de gravidade !!

[JustaPor]

We bring you the first photosof the latest Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 production test mule! It compares most closely to the FT-86 II Concept car rather than the recently revealed Scion FR-S.
What’s curious is that it wears 17″ Subaru/Enkei wheels.
In First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17) - Scion FR-S Forum | Toyota FT-S Forum | Subaru 216a Forum | ft86club

O que é impressionante é o facto de existirem 3.173 membros, 1.164 tópicos e 43.757 posts num fórum dedicado a um modelo que ainda nem sequer está disponível no mercado!

[Ginga]

Realmente, o cu fica mais baixo que a porta! É bem. A minha mãe é que não vai curtir nada quando precisar de andar de carro comigo!

[Martins_Viseu]

Realmente, o cu fica mais baixo que a porta! É bem. A minha mãe é que não vai curtir nada quando precisar de andar de carro comigo!

Se eu vier a ter um quem vier e não gostar tem bom remédio...Não anda!

[pro_corolla]

Realmente este carro promete

Alguém tem ideia do preço que irá custar?

[William_1991]

A partir de 30K€ digo eu... :)

[Pedrogulho]

Já apresentei aqui umas contas à um ano atrás, com base nos valores que os senhores da Toyota diziam!
Não sai para o mercado português por menos de 39000€, isto se tiver o motor 2000cc Boxer, que hoje equipa os Subaru mais fraquitos (com as emissões de CO2 dos mais fraquitos).
Com o 2.5 do WRX STI não fica a menos de 47000€! Isto com a taxa fiscal de hoje.
Mas também já li que seria vendido com um 1.3, com um 1.6 e até híbrido. Com o 1.33 dos Auris, pagariam qualquer coisa como 25000€!

Contas, contas e mais contas...

[glock]

Sim, para serem espertos, podiam fazer váriadas versões a escolha do freguês, á boa maneira 80's e dos tempos do AE, como por exemplo várias escolhas de motores como referiu o pedro, 1.3, 1.6, 2.0, e no equipamento também poderia haver várias versões da coisa, lightweight com o minimo de extras e mais recheado, etc,etc...

[martins]

Os testes continuam,derreter pneus :)

[tremoço]

Eu já marquei teste drive para quando o veiculo chegar a Portugal.....

[Martins_Viseu]

Parece ter um comportamento saudável em curva!Se houver lugar para mais um no test drive avisa que eu também apareço!;)

[glock]

Acho que o dia do test-drive estará cheio... :)

[martins]

Parece ter um comportamento saudável em curva!Se houver lugar para mais um no test drive avisa que eu também apareço!;)

O balanço do carro em curva parece muito bom é dificil num video ver a velocidade mas parece bem elevada,nada a ver com o T23 de produção,então com uns bons coils o carro deve ficar terrivel !!! :)

[Martins_Viseu]

O balanço do carro em curva parece muito bom é dificil num video ver a velocidade mas parece bem elevada,nada a ver com o T23 de produção,então com uns bons coils o carro deve ficar terrivel !!! :)

Terrível de bom esperamos ;)

[Rui Monteiro]

[nuno_n]

oh martins.. estou a ver ja tudo.. O que estava no ring é a versao EUropeira.. A versao do Ft86 que gostavamos que viesse , estou a ver que vais para os EUA .. Um SCION ..

[Martins_Viseu]

oh martins.. estou a ver ja tudo.. O que estava no ring é a versao EUropeira.. A versao do Ft86 que gostavamos que viesse , estou a ver que vais para os EUA .. Um SCION ..

Estou a ver que o mais bonito vai para os sapateiros dos americanos...Vamos lá ver como vai ficar a versão europeia.Não percebo porquê que não vai com este design para todo o lado.Está lindo assim!!!Não mexe mais!!!Só complicam...

[martins]

It's two years on from the unveiling of the FT-86 concept and still five months until the production version makes its debut in Tokyo, but new details of Toyota's new rear-wheel-drive coupe appear to have come to light.

Information passing around Toyota enthusiast forums this week, if accurate, reveals what many have hoped: the FT-86 may just be the car to herald Toyota's 'second renaissance'.

According to Club4AG.com founder Motohide Miwa, a recent invite-only event, reportedly with Toyota Sports vehicle boss Tetsuya Tada, revealed a number of new details of the new hero car, along with an on-screen unveiling of the production model.

Mechanically, Miwa says that while the engine is the Subaru-derived boxer engine already confirmed, it has been completely worked over at Toyota.

From a revised and re-cast engine block through to Yamaha tuning and Toyota's D-4S direct injection technology, it seems this is absolutely not your Impreza's engine.

Miwa describes a development program focused as much on the enthusiast as the casual buyer.

"The front dash has a beautiful sweeping line, and yet the front corners are recessed into the front window base," Miwa reported to the Club4AG online community.

"I asked why, and Tada-san replied 'It's so you can install a roll cage to regulations for many venues, without cutting up this dash'."

Miwa adds that Tada's team is so focused on weight and handling that buyers should even expect to do without a CD player and navigation. Whether those modern conveniences will appear in the options list, however, is unclear.

On the styling front, Toyota has already confirmed that the recent FT-86 II concept offers the best hint at the production model's look.

According to Miwa, we can expect the concept's 2000GT-inspired C-pillar to carry over, along with "a little more flavour" from the Scion FR-S concept and a sharper rear-end design.

"That's all I can tell you at this point," Miwa adds.

Time will tell as to the accuracy of the report. However when Akio Toyoda was made president of the 74 year-old Toyota Motor Company, the grandson of founder Kiichiro Toyoda, he promised to revitalise the company's entire line-up.

Most importantly, Toyoda also committed his company to developing a new entry-level rear-wheel-drive coupe. With each new report, the FT-86 is looking more tantalising.



And more details from Miwa on the FR-S / FT-86:


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It actually looks better. Take the Original FT86 concept, and add a little more flavor from Scion project's FRS Concept, then smooth down the lines so that it's less tuner looking, and more OEM finesse. Retain the 2000GT C-Pillar, sharpen the tail. And that's how a final version will be. (That's all I can tell you at this point.)

The engine? It's still EJ20 based shape. But Toyota re-casted everything, even down to the engine block with a new design, and with the Yamaha acoustics assigned to make every pulse, beat, and soul of air and vibration to become something to spice performance and tactile feel. Not much is exactly shared with the Subaru engine except the flat four configurations. However, the external mounting points remain the same as the Subaru EJ20, shared for very obvious reasons. That is so YOU can use a Subaru engine to swap if you PREFER the Subaru engine for racing. Why bother with complex fabrication, if Subaru has something you can use from 11 years of WRC?

Everything about this car is BASIC, and PURE.

It's thought out for the aftermarket builders, racing operations, and not without YOU as enthusiast, the grassroots racers, custom builders, show car builders, and parking lot meet goers.

Take for example. The front dash has a beautiful sweeping line, and yet the front corners recessed into the front window base. I asked why... and Tada san replied... "It's so you can install a roll cage to regulations for many venues, without cutting up this dash"

There are many features that go deep into the same thinking... And although such matters of owner-customizations are in place, the vehicle is very refined as is out of the box. Never before, has such low-cost niche-car seen so much research, so much development budget, and resourced with so many talents.

It was met with many challenges of financiers, and business end departments due to the era, and in the wake of many events, from dismal sports car sales in general, Lehman Crisis rendering global spending decrease, and even natural disasters. Large corporations, even Toyota, are not immune to current trends of operating under strict adherence to the speculative finance and rules of the governments and stockholders.
However and despite the unforgiving global economic climate, in the last 5 years of development of the FT86, the best minds converged for this project. Mr.Haraguchi initially to select the key individuals fir for this task, and Tada assigned ultimately, oversee the project. Both are people from MR2 and AE86 projects in the past as well as 2nd Prius and other successful cars with future mind. To add to this, eventually along the process came, the resources and technology brought from the Lexus LFA program, Teams from Subaru including WRC minds of STi, and the whole time, forced and secured by the CEO of Toyota, regarding this as his own favorite development. Akio Toyoda is a proficient and enthusiastic driver and a big fan of this car, often dropping in to test drive it.

Akio has recently shocked the staff on Nurburgring, Testing out of the blue, and drew a whole crowd of officials in panic when he strapped himself into the FT86, and started to chase down a LFA Nur-Edition that was also testing concurrently by a different department. Slipping the tail masterfully around the wet Nurburgring track.... He loves the FT86 as much as we do...

When was the last time you saw a CEO of an auto firm do THAT!!
Well I just did... in a video no less.

Yes, Akio strapped in by TAKATA belts, grinning and jerking at the wheel in quick bursts of counter-steer, cooking the Nurburgring to his own liking, and screaming past the famous Castle down the last straight back to the pits as if he was shouting to the ghosts that live in the old castle. That was an awe-inspiring footage. The usually calm Mr.Toyoda seemed to be as epic as Mel Gibson shouting “FREEDOM”

Mr.Tada continues to travel, mostly in secret cloak, but magically appearing out of the blue in conversations like this afforded to people who can represent the fans and enthusiasm, that is all of us. He is almost like the Jason Bourne of Toyota Sports car development as I see it. Always in close contact with the CEO boss, taking care of his projects covertly at times, but free minded to conjure a car for the future, fending off opinions of conventions and bureaus. Mr.Tada, and his team, logged thousands of miles in the FT86 test mule, and he says it’s STILL not finished... 5 years, and still perfecting it every day, from materials of rubber bushings to see if steering feel can be improved or gas pedal to react more passionately, and details like equipment choices on the interior. In fact, this meeting was immediately after he was shaking it down in Arizona in the massive heat...to see it through that this car will outlast the most abusive of us in what he calls madness. I assume that to be our crazy tendencies to attend silly events where we burn rear tires all day long. But yes, he has that in mind for us…

What if I told you that FT86 has NO CD player, and no Navigation screen? It's entirely possible...

He figured we'd all have smart-phones to tell us where we're going by 2012, and all we need is an FM radio to tell us if the world is ending. And for all other times on the road, he's like us to listen to your favorite iPOD, or the beautiful sounds emanating from the exhaust system specifically designed for this car by the best ears at Yamaha Acoustic Instruments company. All this, while sitting in seats made in collaboration with the best aftermarket and OE racing operations and sports car makers.

Affordable, yes, that is one of the first priorities. However, nothing about the car from what I saw in the photos looked CHEAP... The car may be affordable, but all the key ingredients like simple, functional interior, wrapped in very neat fabrics?

All of this and much more I can't say... All of this and MUCH MUCH more...

If AE86 was the starting point, and you had 30 years of technology change, and tools and toys we enjoy, mash it all into a car with dimensions nearly exactly matching the AE86. And taking NONE of the soul out from the AE86. What do you get?

I call it my dream car. And Club4AG will live on forever...
Because the sports car to enjoy from Toyota is BACK!


De uma forma simples o que esta escrito é !!
O tablier do carro foi desenhado e pensado de maneira a que se possa instalar uma Roll cage sem ter que cortar nada no tablier !!
Esta tambem prevista uma versão sem Radio ou ar condicionado !!
O motor é o Subaru com o sistema d4-s e como aconteceu com o 1.8vvtl-i é a Yamanha que se esta a ocupar de o modificar !!

Tudo isto são boas noticias e so mostra que a toyota esta a levar este carro ao minimo detalhe !! :)

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[Ginga]

Soa bem!!!!
Mais 5 meses!

[Martins_Viseu]

Gostei muito de ler isto!Este carro é capaz de dar que falar!

[TerrorTechWar]

Já apresentei aqui umas contas à um ano atrás, com base nos valores que os senhores da Toyota diziam!
Não sai para o mercado português por menos de 39000€, isto se tiver o motor 2000cc Boxer, que hoje equipa os Subaru mais fraquitos (com as emissões de CO2 dos mais fraquitos).
Com o 2.5 do WRX STI não fica a menos de 47000€! Isto com a taxa fiscal de hoje.
Mas também já li que seria vendido com um 1.3, com um 1.6 e até híbrido. Com o 1.33 dos Auris, pagariam qualquer coisa como 25000€!

Contas, contas e mais contas...

Em Portugal vai ser vendido apenas com as motorizações 1.33VVT-i e 1.4D4D!!! O híbrido sai no ano a seguir!

[CrasyE12]

Em Portugal vai ser vendido apenas com as motorizações 1.33VVT-i e 1.4D4D!!! O híbrido sai no ano a seguir!

já esteve mais longe 90 e 100 cv não vai aquilo começar a dar zanga aos "kobotas" dos ibizas

[wysiwygyaris]

Muito bom, é assim, este pode vir a ser um carro de sonho, espero pelo resultado.
Gostei da reedição da parceria com a Yamaha para acústica depois do Lexus, o que garante que o carro vai soar lindamente.

Apreciei também a expressão... manter os pontos de ancoragem do motor Subaru... porque afinal de contas se a Subaru está na competição há muito tempo, porque não aproveitar os motores, quando o objectivo é ir para as corridas...